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Post by ricefox on Dec 17, 2009 15:17:51 GMT -5
You're not getting credit for making him interesting, you're getting credit becuase I couldn't have made him interesting unless you had made him first. Why would you give someone credit for making something that sucks jsut because someone else makes it cool. It's like you didn't even read what I wrote. I'm not going to repeat myself.
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Post by GarlenGreenGoblin on Dec 17, 2009 16:35:10 GMT -5
Why would you give someone credit for making something that sucks jsut because someone else makes it cool. It's like you didn't even read what I wrote. I'm not going to repeat myself. Yes WE FUCKING GET IT LOEB CREATED HUSH!!! was hush interesting? NO, did another writer make him interesting? YES, does loeb deserve credit for the story another writer wrote? NO, Dini wrote the story, many people thought it was Interesting, but here's the factor, he could've used any other Batman Character, he's got the voice to them he knows them, so it was his liberty in choosing Hush, he did the character a favor. Here's an Example, Raimi hated Venom, But he has been credited as saying he enjoy Topher Grace as Venom because he gave the character humanity in his performance, yet you'll notice in Raimi's statement he had never even alluded that it is all because of David Michelinie and Todd McFarlane that Topher played the Role so well. Batman is a good example himself, Bob Kane did a poor drawing of the character, Bill Finger, the writer, gave him his back story and his rogue gallery, really Bill Finger should be given credit, but Bob Kane, Kane came up with the name, Finger made him interesting, and many people in the Business disregard Kane for not giving Finger Credit for making the Character the Character!
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Post by ricefox on Dec 20, 2009 22:21:41 GMT -5
It's like you didn't even read what I wrote. I'm not going to repeat myself. Yes WE FUCKING GET IT LOEB CREATED HUSH!!! was hush interesting? NO, did another writer make him interesting? YES, does loeb deserve credit for the story another writer wrote? NO, Dini wrote the story, many people thought it was Interesting, but here's the factor, he could've used any other Batman Character, he's got the voice to them he knows them, so it was his liberty in choosing Hush, he did the character a favor. Here's an Example, Raimi hated Venom, But he has been credited as saying he enjoy Topher Grace as Venom because he gave the character humanity in his performance, yet you'll notice in Raimi's statement he had never even alluded that it is all because of David Michelinie and Todd McFarlane that Topher played the Role so well. Batman is a good example himself, Bob Kane did a poor drawing of the character, Bill Finger, the writer, gave him his back story and his rogue gallery, really Bill Finger should be given credit, but Bob Kane, Kane came up with the name, Finger made him interesting, and many people in the Business disregard Kane for not giving Finger Credit for making the Character the Character! Jesus Christ. Loeb shouldn't get credit becuase someone made Hush interesting, but he should for making him in the first place. I've had to say this like, three times
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Post by GarlenGreenGoblin on Dec 21, 2009 6:49:45 GMT -5
Yes WE FUCKING GET IT LOEB CREATED HUSH!!! was hush interesting? NO, did another writer make him interesting? YES, does loeb deserve credit for the story another writer wrote? NO, Dini wrote the story, many people thought it was Interesting, but here's the factor, he could've used any other Batman Character, he's got the voice to them he knows them, so it was his liberty in choosing Hush, he did the character a favor. Here's an Example, Raimi hated Venom, But he has been credited as saying he enjoy Topher Grace as Venom because he gave the character humanity in his performance, yet you'll notice in Raimi's statement he had never even alluded that it is all because of David Michelinie and Todd McFarlane that Topher played the Role so well. Batman is a good example himself, Bob Kane did a poor drawing of the character, Bill Finger, the writer, gave him his back story and his rogue gallery, really Bill Finger should be given credit, but Bob Kane, Kane came up with the name, Finger made him interesting, and many people in the Business disregard Kane for not giving Finger Credit for making the Character the Character! Jesus Christ. Loeb shouldn't get credit becuase someone made Hush interesting, but he should for making him in the first place. I've had to say this like, three times yeah i understand i ain't blind, sure loeb created him but that's all, he should get credit for creating him, wait? what? they did give him credit? when? oh was it the Fucking HUSH storyline? there you go. jesus you don't see Len Wein's name every fucking time Wolverine appears in a book do you? NO!!!!!! that's enough to prove the point btw, why wouldn't Jim Lee get any credit... Jerk
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Post by ricefox on Dec 21, 2009 10:16:37 GMT -5
Jesus Christ. Loeb shouldn't get credit becuase someone made Hush interesting, but he should for making him in the first place. I've had to say this like, three times yeah i understand i ain't blind, sure loeb created him but that's all, he should get credit for creating him, wait? what? they did give him credit? when? oh was it the Fucking HUSH storyline? there you go. jesus you don't see Len Wein's name every fucking time Wolverine appears in a book do you? NO!!!!!! that's enough to prove the point btw, why wouldn't Jim Lee get any credit... Jerk I'm not even arguing about his credit in the book. Blowshimself(teehee, I'm not a fan of him btw) said that Loeb didn't deserve any credit for making Hush. I disagreed. Let's end this quibble, becuase I don't have to deal with his superiority complex anymore. : )
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Post by GarlenGreenGoblin on Dec 21, 2009 16:06:03 GMT -5
yeah i understand i ain't blind, sure loeb created him but that's all, he should get credit for creating him, wait? what? they did give him credit? when? oh was it the Fucking HUSH storyline? there you go. jesus you don't see Len Wein's name every fucking time Wolverine appears in a book do you? NO!!!!!! that's enough to prove the point btw, why wouldn't Jim Lee get any credit... Jerk I'm not even arguing about his credit in the book. Blowshimself(teehee, I'm not a fan of him btw) said that Loeb didn't deserve any credit for making Hush. I disagreed. Let's end this quibble, becuase I don't have to deal with his superiority complex anymore. : ) Loeb has credit for creating the character, not making him interesting that's all Dini
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Post by ricefox on Dec 21, 2009 16:47:15 GMT -5
I'm not even arguing about his credit in the book. Blowshimself(teehee, I'm not a fan of him btw) said that Loeb didn't deserve any credit for making Hush. I disagreed. Let's end this quibble, becuase I don't have to deal with his superiority complex anymore. : ) Loeb has credit for creating the character, not making him interesting that's all Dini Yes. Okay. So we can now add, onto the list of good things Loeb has done, the creation of Hush. Let's get back on topic. Do you like anything that Loeb has done?
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Post by GarlenGreenGoblin on Dec 21, 2009 18:49:43 GMT -5
Loeb has credit for creating the character, not making him interesting that's all Dini Yes. Okay. So we can now add, onto the list of good things Loeb has done, the creation of Hush. Let's get back on topic. Do you like anything that Loeb has done? why? the character isn't that good, he's got one interesting story, how about we list it as Loeb got Jim Lee on Batman for a 12 issue run?
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Post by ricefox on Dec 21, 2009 20:58:19 GMT -5
Yes. Okay. So we can now add, onto the list of good things Loeb has done, the creation of Hush. Let's get back on topic. Do you like anything that Loeb has done? why? the character isn't that good, he's got one interesting story, how about we list it as Loeb got Jim Lee on Batman for a 12 issue run? Fine. We'll do that.
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Post by GarlenGreenGoblin on Dec 22, 2009 6:21:30 GMT -5
why? the character isn't that good, he's got one interesting story, how about we list it as Loeb got Jim Lee on Batman for a 12 issue run? Fine. We'll do that. sounds good
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Post by andrew on Dec 22, 2009 16:31:35 GMT -5
well i cant speak for jeph with marvel because i know he has not done that well with anything there.
however here is a list of things i think jeph has done well in dc; Batman Long Halloween Batman Haunter knight Batman hush Superman for all seasons superman no limit superman our worlds at war superman batman vol 1 2 & 3 supergirl power.
I think the thing with jeph loeb (at least with dc) for me is that he has done a few great works like long Halloween, for all seasons, ect. and then everything else is ok. like hush, personally i enjoyed hush but its not that amazing of a comic.
like i said i can only speak for his dc works, so i cant make an informed opinion on everything he has done.
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Post by ricefox on Dec 23, 2009 12:20:52 GMT -5
well i cant speak for jeph with marvel because i know he has not done that well with anything there. however here is a list of things i think jeph has done well in dc; Batman Long Halloween Batman Haunter knight Batman hush Superman for all seasons superman no limit superman our worlds at war superman batman vol 1 2 & 3 supergirl power. I think the thing with jeph loeb (at least with dc) for me is that he has done a few great works like long Halloween, for all seasons, ect. and then everything else is ok. like hush, personally i enjoyed hush but its not that amazing of a comic. like i said i can only speak for his dc works, so i cant make an informed opinion on everything he has done. See, my whole thing with Loeb is, he loves what he does, and he loves his fans. I love reading his introductions, because he's a great story teller, and it even shows when he isn't telling a story. While his stuff may not be the greatest stuff ever, it's all very enjoyable. All his comics are fun, and it seems like the people whole don't like him are just stuck up.
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Post by jokerjack on Mar 8, 2010 14:50:50 GMT -5
well i cant speak for jeph with marvel because i know he has not done that well with anything there. however here is a list of things i think jeph has done well in dc; Batman Long Halloween Batman Haunter knight Batman hush Superman for all seasons superman no limit superman our worlds at war superman batman vol 1 2 & 3 supergirl power. I think the thing with jeph loeb (at least with dc) for me is that he has done a few great works like long Halloween, for all seasons, ect. and then everything else is ok. like hush, personally i enjoyed hush but its not that amazing of a comic. like i said i can only speak for his dc works, so i cant make an informed opinion on everything he has done. See, my whole thing with Loeb is, he loves what he does, and he loves his fans. I love reading his introductions, because he's a great story teller, and it even shows when he isn't telling a story. While his stuff may not be the greatest stuff ever, it's all very enjoyable. All his comics are fun, and it seems like the people whole don't like him are just stuck up. your right but loeb did write good stories when he started off like long halloween etc. Then after getting all this praise from his fans he thinks: "wow if i do a load of bullshit people will love me for it still cos i made a few good stories. then we have rulk, hush, crap rendition of scarecrow, his rendition of hulk etc. I'm not gonna freak out like in my other posts but the only loeb stuff i have ever enjoyed is: long halloween and dark victory. And by the way trying not to freak out i am not stuck up have u ever fucking met me huh JUST COS I HAVE ONE FUCKING OPINION ABOUT A GUY U SUDDENLY ASSUME IM STUCK UP THAT MAN SHOULD BE GONE FROM HULK AND NEVER DARKEN MARVELS DOOR UNDERSTOOD HUH PUNK CMON PUNK MAKE MY DAY
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