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Post by ricefox on Nov 23, 2009 23:09:56 GMT -5
Dini did a good job with him, becuase Loeb created him. Give the man credit.
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Post by browncoateric on Nov 24, 2009 0:42:02 GMT -5
No. If Brubaker goes and makes stilit man a fucking badass villain. That doesn't mean the guy who made him did a great job with him.
Loeb deserves no credit for Dini using his pour character well.
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Post by ricefox on Nov 24, 2009 7:10:28 GMT -5
So, why'd you make a video about why Bill Finger deserves more credit for making Batman, if you don't think it even matters who creates the character? If Brubaker happens to make Stilt Man a good villain, hopefully he'd give Stan Lee and Wally Wood credit for making such an... Interesting character.
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Post by jep1376 on Nov 26, 2009 19:51:06 GMT -5
Long Halloween, Superman For All Seasons, Dark Victory, and Batman Hush I okay not bad ,but okay.
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Post by GarlenGreenGoblin on Nov 26, 2009 20:15:48 GMT -5
So, why'd you make a video about why Bill Finger deserves more credit for making Batman, if you don't think it even matters who creates the character? If Brubaker happens to make Stilt Man a good villain, hopefully he'd give Stan Lee and Wally Wood credit for making such an... Interesting character. bob kane gave a design, bill finger ACTUALLY WROTE THE FUCKING BOOK!!! Bob Kane was smart enough to copyright the character as his! Bob cheated, all Bob had was a name a design(that varied after meeting bill) Bill Finger came up with pretty much everything else, and James Robinson deserves credit because the Joker was his and Bills idea cause they saw a movie poster for the man who laughs, starring conrad viedt and thought about how that could be a villain
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Post by ricefox on Nov 28, 2009 21:49:48 GMT -5
So, why'd you make a video about why Bill Finger deserves more credit for making Batman, if you don't think it even matters who creates the character? If Brubaker happens to make Stilt Man a good villain, hopefully he'd give Stan Lee and Wally Wood credit for making such an... Interesting character. bob kane gave a design, bill finger ACTUALLY WROTE THE FUCKING BOOK!!! Bob Kane was smart enough to copyright the character as his! Bob cheated, all Bob had was a name a design(that varied after meeting bill) Bill Finger came up with pretty much everything else, and James Robinson deserves credit because the Joker was his and Bills idea cause they saw a movie poster for the man who laughs, starring conrad viedt and thought about how that could be a villain What are you even talking about? I think you missed the point of what I was saying.
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Post by GarlenGreenGoblin on Nov 29, 2009 0:04:21 GMT -5
bob kane gave a design, bill finger ACTUALLY WROTE THE FUCKING BOOK!!! Bob Kane was smart enough to copyright the character as his! Bob cheated, all Bob had was a name a design(that varied after meeting bill) Bill Finger came up with pretty much everything else, and James Robinson deserves credit because the Joker was his and Bills idea cause they saw a movie poster for the man who laughs, starring conrad viedt and thought about how that could be a villain What are you even talking about? I think you missed the point of what I was saying. you were saying that if someone like Brubacker made a character like stilt man interesting that he should give some credit for making the character. I'm saying that In Eric's video he was right because Bob kane just DREW a character, Finger WROTE AND GAVE STORY to BATMAN, it's doesn't matter Kane does not deserve the credit Finger deserves, Loeb may have created Hush, but if say Dennis O Neal or Paul Dini make him interesting, then they get credit for making character readable, not loeb and not lee, only the person who made them interesting
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Post by zimman2 on Nov 29, 2009 12:37:07 GMT -5
I'm not touching this discussion with a 39 1/2 foot pole.
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Post by ricefox on Dec 5, 2009 16:18:05 GMT -5
What are you even talking about? I think you missed the point of what I was saying. you were saying that if someone like Brubacker made a character like stilt man interesting that he should give some credit for making the character. I'm saying that In Eric's video he was right because Bob kane just DREW a character, Finger WROTE AND GAVE STORY to BATMAN, it's doesn't matter Kane does not deserve the credit Finger deserves, Loeb may have created Hush, but if say Dennis O Neal or Paul Dini make him interesting, then they get credit for making character readable, not loeb and not lee, only the person who made them interesting I don't see how you think that works. A writer can't take an existing character and make him awesome, unless that character was already made, and if you're using a character that someone else made, you should give that person credit.
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Post by GarlenGreenGoblin on Dec 5, 2009 17:50:13 GMT -5
you were saying that if someone like Brubacker made a character like stilt man interesting that he should give some credit for making the character. I'm saying that In Eric's video he was right because Bob kane just DREW a character, Finger WROTE AND GAVE STORY to BATMAN, it's doesn't matter Kane does not deserve the credit Finger deserves, Loeb may have created Hush, but if say Dennis O Neal or Paul Dini make him interesting, then they get credit for making character readable, not loeb and not lee, only the person who made them interesting I don't see how you think that works. A writer can't take an existing character and make him awesome, unless that character was already made, and if you're using a character that someone else made, you should give that person credit. why? if i created Spider-Man, and wrote it for a while and the run was terrible, then you came along and wrote it, would it make sense if i got any credit for the hard work you put forth in making the character interesting? no, i wouldn't, i only made the character i didn't make anything about him special, why would i get the credit, a character needs more than to be created, he needs to be made unique
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Post by ricefox on Dec 6, 2009 16:37:14 GMT -5
I don't see how you think that works. A writer can't take an existing character and make him awesome, unless that character was already made, and if you're using a character that someone else made, you should give that person credit. why? if i created Spider-Man, and wrote it for a while and the run was terrible, then you came along and wrote it, would it make sense if i got any credit for the hard work you put forth in making the character interesting? no, i wouldn't, i only made the character i didn't make anything about him special, why would i get the credit, a character needs more than to be created, he needs to be made unique It doesn't matter how good I made the character, you made the character, you get credit.
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Post by GarlenGreenGoblin on Dec 6, 2009 16:42:10 GMT -5
why? if i created Spider-Man, and wrote it for a while and the run was terrible, then you came along and wrote it, would it make sense if i got any credit for the hard work you put forth in making the character interesting? no, i wouldn't, i only made the character i didn't make anything about him special, why would i get the credit, a character needs more than to be created, he needs to be made unique It doesn't matter how good I made the character, you made the character, you get credit. but i didn't make him interesting, why would i get credit for something i didn't do
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Post by ricefox on Dec 13, 2009 17:23:07 GMT -5
It doesn't matter how good I made the character, you made the character, you get credit. but i didn't make him interesting, why would i get credit for something i didn't do You're not getting credit for making him interesting, you're getting credit becuase I couldn't have made him interesting unless you had made him first.
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Post by browncoateric on Dec 13, 2009 17:55:28 GMT -5
but i didn't make him interesting, why would i get credit for something i didn't do You're not getting credit for making him interesting, you're getting credit becuase I couldn't have made him interesting unless you had made him first. Why would you give someone credit for making something that sucks jsut because someone else makes it cool.
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Post by GarlenGreenGoblin on Dec 13, 2009 18:05:20 GMT -5
You're not getting credit for making him interesting, you're getting credit becuase I couldn't have made him interesting unless you had made him first. Why would you give someone credit for making something that sucks jsut because someone else makes it cool. THANK YOU!!!
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